User talk:Vandraedha

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hello! i'm a new admin for the Pocket Frogs Wiki and i've been trying to do some housecleaning. i see you do a lot of updates especially to the weekly sets, thanks! i also see you have marked some pages for deletion. i'm starting to delete pages based on that list. if you see any other pages which should be deleted, please mark them and i'll check the 'candidate for deletion' category for what needs cleaning up. thanks! Holykrip (talk) 16:00, August 12, 2020 (UTC)

Chroma pages
Hello! I saw you made some edits to the Chroma pages and I wanted to let you know that I am going to merge the content so there is only one Chroma page (on the old page that was titled Chroma). I will be doing the same to the Glass pages.

ZeroSuitToadette     Talk    This schist is gneiss   14:44, August 13, 2020 (UTC)

Untitled section
Hi, I am very impressed with your edits and I would like to make you an admin. I need your consent before I make the change. DalekCaan1 (talk) 16:27, August 16, 2020 (UTC)
 * Consider it given. - Vandraedha talk contribs 04:01, August 17, 2020 (UTC)

converted to new templates?
hi vandraedha - i guess the pocket frogs wiki has been converted. our landing page is completely different now. it's just the discussion/forum posts and the content about the game itself isn't being pointed to anymore. i'm going to google and poke around and see how to reset at least some of the content. i see dalekcaan has gone quiet again and you aren't an admin yet. if you have advice for me, i'd be happy to get it. i'm also a little confused because we still seem to have 'talk' pages which i thought were going away. maybe the conversion isn't finished? Holykrip (talk) 15:52, September 1, 2020 (UTC)
 * The conversion is happening in multiple stages. There was a recent blog post on Community Central that they were pausing some of the changes because of technical problems (they will resume again soon). However, talk pages are expected to remain as part of the UCP. Currently, this wiki is still on MediaWiki 1.19.x, once it completely migrates it will go to MediaWiki 1.33.x (you can find this information by going to Special:Version). Unfortunately, it looks like we're probably going to need to wait for at least a few more weeks before User:DalekCaan1 reappears. It looks like you've fixed most things on the main page already. There's a few minor tweaks, but I'll post them separately on Talk:Pocket Frogs Wiki so that everyone can see them. Vandraedha  talk contribs 06:12, September 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * thanks. i asked some questions on the fandom help pages and apparently the discussion page is the "normal" first page.  for this game the frog request forum is the most active part of the wiki so that's ok, but i also think it makes it harder for folks looking for help playing the game to find the rest of the content.  with some pointers i was able to make the mobile view more helpful, i think, by adding some 'featured content' which will let folks get into the gameplay sections easier.  i knew the content was there and i always had problems getting to it.  i think your sandbox rearrangement of the home page looks good.  i've only been editing anything on this particular wiki for a few months, so i don't know the history of the tables.  i did think it was strange that the base colors and secondary colors weren't together.  if breaking up the tables into smaller sections, or using a different markup makes it better for mobile views, i'm game for that.  thanks for the mediawiki version pointer.  i did see that they're pausing the conversion for a bit.  i'll look at your other changes and comment either on those talk pages or come back here in a bit and add more.  thanks!  Holykrip (talk) 13:52, September 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * i do like your sandbox version of the home page. i'll give it a bit of time but i'm leaning towards updating the main page to match. also, i tried simplifying the base and secondary color tables by pulling the line-by-line formatting into the table header.  it looks fine on desktop but doesn't seem to work on mobile.  but on mobile the size of the base color images seems pretty small and the table has to scroll from side to side. there's got to be a better way to display this.  i'm open to suggestions here.  Holykrip (talk) 14:16, September 2, 2020 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, CSS and in-line styling isn't really supported by Fandom for the mobile version of the site. If they get enough feedback at Special:Contact they may change that, but I doubt that it will be any time soon. Vandraedha  talk contribs 07:40, September 6, 2020 (UTC)

adding EZ context links between sections
BRILLIANT!! i just saw your change to the Frondis page where you added a context link back to the weekly sets page. i've wanted to add a way to do that from each of the pattern pages for a long time, because when i see a frog is part of a weekly set i usually want to see what else is in that set. i haven't seen that syntax for "main article" before. it's perfect!! thank you! Holykrip (talk) 12:43, September 24, 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. It's a common template that I noticed was missing from the wiki, so I imported it. I'd been meaning to add it to the various pages for a while. I just kept getting distracted by other things. Vandraedha  talk contribs 15:44, September 24, 2020 (UTC)

Updating Main Page source?
hello Vandraedha - i was looking at your sandbox source for the main page, and trying to put the nice 3 column format into the actual main page. i added what i thought would do it, but no. can you see the source for the main page and tell me what i'm missing? i did steal your updates to the gallery so it has all 111 frogs now, and i separated out the news from the versions, both scrolling boxes now. but still only 2 columns... :(   oh, and i really like the change to the infobox for the POP frog text.  true/false doesn't seem clear, but the default text now seems good!  thanks!  Holykrip (talk) 19:10, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, it's taking me a while to get back to you. I'm a bit busy right now, but I'll try to take some time tonight to take a look at things. - Vandraedha talk contribs 09:55, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * no worries. this is not a high priority thing.   Holykrip (talk) 16:20, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
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I can see the source, I just can't edit it there. :-)

Okay, I'm assuming that you mean 2 columns, plus the right rail, because mine doesn't actually have 3 columns. Be sure to use paragraph marks < p> < /p>, not line breaks for compatibility on multiple devices (it may seem minor, but it makes a big difference on certain screens/browsers...especially things like screen readers). Also, you missed a heading (if you were trying to duplicate my sandbox). You'll want to add above the section just below the gallery.


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 * yes, i did mean 2 columns of our content plus "the right rail". i've done lots of plain html markup but not much with wiki markup, and hardly anything with the system fandom is using - either old or new!  i had to do a lot of digging around trying to find where the main dropdown menus were set, how to set the main description (using the mobile page, of course!), etc.  "rail" -- that's a new term for me.  i saw you were using paragraph marks instead of line breaks but i didn't know it mattered.  i'll put those in.  does it matter on the other pages as well?  none of the pattern pages use them - i'm going through them trying to make them more consistent and correct content -- i can certainly add paragraph marks as i go.


 * i'll add the About heading, i did miss that.

Next, it looks like you're using direct editing to fill in the scrollboxes vs the templates/subpages. This is slightly problematic (duplication increases the odds of one of them having errors or being out of date). To avoid this, [Pocket_Frogs_Wiki:News_Archive]] is probably what you want to be editing/transcluding for "Recent News", not the main page itself. We can use Versions for the version information in the same way. (I've added it to my sandbox, let me know if you need help figuring out how it's being transcluded.)


 * yeah, i saw you did that and i was just being lazy about the number of changes i was making. but you're right, i should add new content on the versions and news archive pages and transclude them.  duplicating information is a path to madness.  i'll fix it.

I'm actually happy about the removal of the Activity Feed module from the main page. I don't particularly like them there, but that's a personal opinion (and as such, I don't tend to ).


 * if i get the "rail" working that has 'recent changes' as the first thing, then removing the "activity feed" section altogether is an obvious thing to do.

As far as the Infoboxes go... They've been causing me headaches for a while now (hence the changes and the more descriptive text that's currently there). Once the wiki is further migrated to UCP, I'm hoping to be able to use some of the newer tools to be able automate the pages/infobox to add more information regarding the differences between frogs that show up in the FrogMart spot and POP/promo frogs (eg the fact high level non-POP frogs are also in the "potion" slot, but can be found elsewhere in the game).


 * maybe this is related (or the same thing?) but on the individual pattern pages in the general description section, i've been duplicating a paragraph about POP frogs being available randomly/occasionally in the frogmart or gifted from other users. each time i think i should make some kind of macro so it's only typed in a single place.  can you recommend how to best include/transclude/macro-ize a single paragraph with this wiki software?


 * END REPLY (and thanks for all your help with this!!) Holykrip (talk) 17:13, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

-- Vandraedha  talk contribs 13:59, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

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... ugh. ok, i made the fixes you suggested above - paragraph markup, transclude the news and app updates. i *still* don't see the "rail" on the main page and yet your sandbox has it. (edit to add: i mean the "recent wiki activity" and "popular pages" content that i see on other pages). i have 2 columns worth of content, like yours. i don't see anything in the formatting i'm missing. is there a different place to set the overall page format? what's the secret?? Holykrip (talk) 20:32, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Templates achieved!
hi, i found and successfully created (i think!) a template (with documentation!) for a macro that inserts the same text into the description section of the POP frogs. (See the source of the Bulbus page for my first use of it.) i'm slowly learning my way around the wiki-specific stuff here. :)  Holykrip (talk) 17:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)